CAPT test results for West Hartford

SCHOOL DISTRICT: WEST HARTFORD
MATHEMATICS: 56.8
SCIENCE: 63.9
READING: 62.0
WRITING: 68.3

The state averages are as follows:
Math: 45.2 | Science: 44.4 | Reading: 45.6 | Writing: 52.9

I’m predicting a new push in math so watch out kids!

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20 responses to “CAPT test results for West Hartford

  1. EJ

    We were still significantly behind Avon and Farminton. Close to Simsbury though.

  2. Gary Reger

    Is there a place one can easily find all the scores for the whole state?

  3. RE: EJ

    What does it matter to you? are you even in high schoo?. Do you realize the ridiculous standards you competitive adults have created for us? Get lives instead of making ours harder. Kids don’t take these tests seriously. This doesn’t adequetly mesure our intelligence but rather our patience for how long we can endure 10+ days of sitting in a room being asked stuff we may not have even learned.

  4. EJ

    RE:EJ, I sympathize with you. But the reason these tests came about was because you kids were getting to college and the colleges had to give you classes in the basics. The SAT scores have been dropping, so that they now spot you roughly 200pts on the basis of the SATs.

    Grade inflation over the last few years have made the mean grade a B, rather than a C. Hell, in the 60’s and 70’s you could get into some pretty nice colleges with high C and B averages. Today you need a high B or A because of grade inflation. If your in the honors program they spot you 1/2 a pt on your GP just for showing up.

    Look at the honor rolls today. You have honors, high honors and maximum honors. By the time you finish counting half to 2/3s of the class is on an honors list, what does being an honors student mean anymore besides the fact that your going to college.

    As to your question, what does it matter to me. No I’m not in high school, my kids are (actually 1 is the other just graduated) and I see what they’re up against and the attitudes they develop. How often they don’t take tests seriously because they know they’ll be allowed to make up deficiencies with extra credit. I’ve tried to show them that what they’re experiencing is not the real world.

    Maybe that makes me a hard ass when it comes to school, but I don’t want the kids moving back home when they’re out in the real world and have to compete for jobs.

  5. Rick Liftig

    My daughter made an interesting comment last week.

    She noted that college students looked forward to getting back and were excited about their courses. She thought back to the last time she was excited about going back to school and it was probably 6th grade (she is a senior now). Something about grades 6-12 had caused her to lose her enthusiasm for school.

    Public education creates boxes for our children. If you don’t fit into the box, well… need I say more (of course, I will). The standardized tests have made those boxes even smaller by emphasizing reading and math.

    At a time when children should be excited about every new experience, we have dulled them with the drudgery of studying for ‘the test’. The curriculum, similarly, is all aimed at the test. And school systems have to find ways of making their districts score better on the tests. It’s no wonder that my daughter and Re:EJ are burnt out. The tests are de-humanizing and in a word: boring.

    I was very fortunate (some 40 years ago!). My education was enriched by a machinist who taught me about soldering, metalwork and welding; an English teacher who had enough leeway that she was able to single me out and work on my writing and a biology teacher who was able to pass along his excitement about ecology and the effects of over-population on the environment. My teachers had the leeway to adapt the curriculum to my needs. I remember almost every one of my teachers. Their attitudes and enthusiasm shaped me and got me excited to learn more.

    The tests are lousy motivators. We Americans love to compare ourselves to everyone else and the tests provide for that. But they do nothing to insure success. The tests tell us that economically disadvantaged kids in the inner city do poorly on tests and that wealthy kids in the suburbs do better. I think it’s pretty clear that the difference is social expectations and economics…. it’s likely not the teachers and curriculum.

    When you see how successful most home-schooled kids are, you have to ask why. A kid needs interaction with caring adults, time and leeway to explore their talents. The teachers are aching to provide this, yet our system chops them off and stuffs them into the same little boxes that the students are in.

    You need to motivate a child first on their strengths before you can tackle the weaknesses. In fact, if they feel good about their strengths, the weaknesses often take care of themselves. Our country is wasting a lot of time, effort and money on these tests and the sooner the concept is dropped, the better.

  6. RE: EJ (Hall Student)

    I couldn’t agree more with Rick Liftig. Thank you for your perspective. It’s comforting to know that us students aren’t the only ones who find this testing unappealing. And I envy how it was for parents back when they were in high school.

  7. Gary Reger

    Standardized tests are pretty much worthless and have wrecked enormous damage on our educational system. I can assure Re:EJ that teachers hate these tests as much as the students. Thanks, Rick, for saying this which such eloquence and directness. The sooner they are gone, the sooner we can go back to real education.

  8. EJ

    Unfortunately these tests came about because kids were graduating, going on to college.The colleges were then discovering these kids had 2nd rate educations and they had to start remedial courses to get the students up to speed.

    As much as these tests may be disliked they came about because the public school system was failing and putting out an inferior product.

  9. Rick Liftig

    And as often happens with legislation, the goal was noble, the cause just, and the implementation was a disaster.

    The federal government’s heavy hand often creates as many problems as it solves.

  10. EJ

    That may be true Rick, but unfortunately the local BOEs were not stepping up to the plate.

  11. Rick Liftig

    I just listened to this great podcast:

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14055656&ft=1&f=5

    Talk of the Nation, August 30, 2007 ·

    Our public schools are in serious trouble, says Rudy Crew, superintendent of one of the largest school districts in the country. Crew talks about why he feels the school system is in crisis and why education needs to be the nation’s number one priority.

    An excerpt from his book is on the website. I think you could replace this whole thread with his quote and cover all the bases.

  12. Joe Visconti

    Rick

    Welcome to Miami!

    I spent 5 years in Miami Dade County from 95-99 working as the Executive Producer with Miami- Dade Television on a Joint venture called “Disabilities & Posibilities”, much of my work was dealing with disabilities and the educational system as the program made it onto PBS.
    My children ( Joey and Gabby) attended the Miami- Dade public school system before we moved back to West Hartford and I can tell you Miami- Dade and the school leaders had done a great job down there with more issue’s than West Hartford will ever see.

    Disabilities & Possibilities Televsion series highlighted the achievment of people with disabilities and showcased groups like Easter Seals , The Miami Project, Horses for the Handicapped and the Anne Stork Center for severly disabled artists. The program brought to light the complexities of the disabled world as it relates to the educational world.
    Our program reached across the entire state of Florida with the help of then Governor Lawton Chiles who called the program a ” Phenonema”. The Governor gave the program his Media Award as did NATOA .
    Disabilities & Possibilities also won an Emmy Award for Public Affairs series and helped the State and local governments provide more resources to the disabled, caregiver parents and loved ones by Broadcasting Achievement.

    Although I am not running for a Board of Education position, I can tell you that bringing the public and the light of day into our educational problems is the first step towards “Educational Recovery”.

    West Hartford also needs to get the State of CT on the ball and we need to make it “keep the promise with ECS” before our school system continue’s to slide.

  13. Conard Studentrt

    I took these tests, a painstaking 2 hours or so a day, and for a total of about 4 days. What a huge pain. And then, after all my time and effort, I’ve only just recieved word that my scores were “inadequate”…

    It took the state of CT more than 6 months to grade the freaking tests and come to the conclusion that in all the categories of the CAPT’s my scores fell only into the “Proficient” category, or “Average”, falling short of “State Goal”. That’s real fantastic. I look forward to taking these pointless tests once more. Who knows, maybe I’ll be a senior who can’t graduate due to low CAPT scores. That would be really absurd….

  14. EJ

    Sounds pointless? Sounds more like a wake up call to get the basics down.

    Your telling us nothing about yourself except that you didn’t like these tests, possibly didn’t take them seriously, and only did average on them at best.

    Is this normal performance for you on tests? Will you have the same complaints if you only do so-so on the PSATs or the SATs? Are they pointless tests as well?

    Unfortunately these “pointless” tests came about because the State needed some way to assess whether or not the schools were adequately educating their charges, since kids were going off to college with no command of the basics.

  15. (Hall Student)

    Those who meet proficient don’t have to retake the capt but are encouraged to.’Goal’ only makes you look more appealing if you plan to go to college.

    As for EJ, it seems that Conard Student did take the tests seriously since they said ‘after all their time and effort…’

    i don’t think it’s right for you to assume that everyone who doesn’t meet the state goal, is a slacker. Perhaps this is flawed testing.

  16. DB

    EJ,

    I’m not sure how you arrived at your comment about West Hartford almost catching Simsbury in the CAPT tests… West Hartford is well behind Simsbury in all CAPT subject tests as well as CMT and SAT. Simsbury was one of only four towns in the state to score in the “Top Ten” in each CAPT subject area. Two of the four towns are from Fairfield County. Simsbury also scored better overall than Avon and Farmington. You can find these results on courant.com under “Education.”

  17. EJ

    DB, you are absolutely correct.
    My apologies, just rechecked – not sure what happened.

  18. HHS Student

    The least they can do is do what other towns do, they take 1 section a day, then go home, kind of like what goes on with finals and mid-terms. I know Avon does it and on that website it showed that Avon was doing way better than us. When I took these tests last year, I just got to the point where I was like, “Whatever” and if the question involved allot of work I just guessed. Another factor for you to consider the large minority percentage in our schools, we take in many kids from Hartford, and its awesome that we do that for them.

  19. Elliot Check

    Sounds like a reasonable idea HHS Student, why don’t you bring it up at a BOE meeting, I believe the next meeting is Tuesday Jan 15, 7pm. There is time for individuals to address the BOE at the beginning of each meeting.

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