The wasteful referendum the West Hartford Taxpayers Association foisted on us is now scheduled for June 12. We’re left with no alternative except to vote for the budget then, even if we have to hold our noses. After all, town officials would only cut more if the budget gets voted down — even if many of us would prefer the spending plan allocated MORE money.
May 23, 2007...8:33 am
Let’s pass the budget on June 12
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May 23, 2007 at 9:34 am
Let’s not let our biases show:
“The wasteful referendum the West Hartford Taxpayers Association foisted on us “. The WHTA had no difficulty getting more then enough signatures to bring the budget to referendum. There are plenty of people out there displeased with the current budget and tax situation.
“We’re left with no alternative except to vote for the budget then, even if we have to hold our noses.” Sure there is an alternative, the budget can be voted down and sent back to the council. After all it is a yea/nay ballot, not just a vote for.
And since when is allowing the citizenry a chance to vote a waste. If the citizens put off there vote until Nov. the damage will have been done. The WHTA is excersing its’ right as a group of voters in this town to apply the democratic principles it is allowed by town charter
May 23, 2007 at 10:11 am
What would a NO vote mean? That they should RAISE the budget or CUT it?
May 23, 2007 at 10:12 am
Besides, I make no claim that I’m not biased. I am not an impartial observer.
May 23, 2007 at 10:19 am
Not having seen the wording of the referendum I am only guessing, but I believe a NO vote will send it back to the council for reconsideration of the budgeet. A YES vote leaves it as is.
Of course you were/are free to petition the council for a referendum to raise taxes. After all the charter allows 2 referenda.
May 23, 2007 at 10:38 am
Hmmmmmm…..
May 23, 2007 at 2:31 pm
Love the bias claim — a frequent tactic of the know-nothing right.
WHDAD makes no claim to objectivity. He writes a blog and is entitled to any view he desires.
It ain’t bias. It’s opinion.
May 23, 2007 at 10:32 pm
Opinions most certainly can be biased, such as your “know-nothing right” and WHDAD’s. I didn’t say he doesn’t have the right to these opinions either.
But I guess it is remarkable that according to you that the only ones who know anything or left wing liberal nuts.
BTW 40% of the petition signers were registered democrats and 32% were unaffiliated voters. Not quite right wing nut jobs taking this budget to referendum.
May 23, 2007 at 11:10 pm
Good Job EJ, I’m liken what I’m seein here. You must be a numbers person, wish I knew your Identity. Do I?
May 24, 2007 at 6:04 am
Having collected hundreds of signatures along with Sondra Brook(see article in Hartford Advocate) it would have been easy to obtain more since voters were backed up 4-6 in line waiting to get onto the petitions we were circulating. The short period of time for seniors needing absentee ballots for this referendum allows them little time to actually participate in this vote. The town council as usual has underminded the real will of the voters in West Hartford. They call this Democracy? I think not! Who on the council is going after the 30 million in ECS money due W.H? What did Sullivan do to get it as no 2 in the state and where is Harris on this issue?
May 24, 2007 at 6:31 am
We’ve met in passing once or twice at council meetings, Joe.
May 24, 2007 at 8:33 am
And Linda
Where is Fleishman on this issue? Hey Andy, you got 13 days to come out of hiding before it’s too late to press the Lobbymakers to give back to us in a bigway. Are you still hiding behind Big Education? Is anyone paying attention to what this Elected official isn’t doing at the State Level? Isn’t Andy the heads of the Education whatchamacallit department?
Andy is MIA, we better put his picture on telephone poles soon.
Sample Flyer:
Have you seen this Man? Lost since Election November 06 , State Representative elected to represent the Citizens of West Hartford, Tall Dark and Handsome, answers to the Name Andrew Fleishman, may mumble Educational rhetoric if spotted.
May 24, 2007 at 3:16 pm
EJ:
There are know-nothing lefties too. But it’s the know-nothing righties who love to level the old bias charge.
Bias usually equals anything they don’t agree with.
And it’s a helpful red herring for those know-nothing righties incapable of carrying on a discussion about an issue. Claiming bias helps them change the subject so that they don’t actually have to demonstrate original thought.
Not that I’m talking about you or anything ….
May 24, 2007 at 3:37 pm
As far as I’m concerned bias indicates a slant towards the individuals positon. So technichally we are all biased.
My original comment was in reference to the language used in the header of this string. Moderators of fora are free to show there biases, just as responders are. I simply called the moderator on his use of language. The header certainly could have had a more neutral tone, it was his choice not, and frankly it really doesn’t make a difference to me.
The discussion probably would have gone the same with the exception that my original post probably would not have been there.
But just as I don’t come in here refering to left wing tax and spend lunatics, I don’t think the references to the WHTA are appropriate either. This is just a group of town folk of all political beliefs excersing there rights according to town charter, nothing inappropriate in that.
May 24, 2007 at 5:15 pm
No nothing Righties???? Oh Fred, Fred keep it coming baby, you got extra cash bud? donate it to AFSCME and the Town of West Hartford, don’t expect those who don’t, to ante up for your liberal bleeding Heart kiss up to the Union Jackals Agenda!
May 24, 2007 at 10:26 pm
Actually Joe, it’s “know-nothing.”
But you knew that, right?
Apparently you’re second grade teacher wasn’t in a union.
May 25, 2007 at 7:46 am
Fred
I am making you watch every word, now that I have your attention I have you write where I want you, thinking about structure, looking for things that don’t fit in the box.
Now find the deunionized spelling errors above and keep worrying about how things look instead of what they mean.
Tax hike’s for Sklarz and Company’s perks and oh, wait till you see what perks he has…….. coming soon to a front door in your neighborhood.
June 3, 2007 at 9:49 pm
whdad makes an interesting point regarding the wording of the referendum question. It is shown as, “Are you in favor of the budget ordinance as adopted on April 24, 2007? Yes or No”, on the town web site. As you can see, a “no” vote does not guarantee that the budget will be reduced. In fact, it would be ironic if the “no-sayers” won, and then we (the yes-sayers) lobbied the council to increase the budget, restoring the $1.8M cut at BOE!
June 4, 2007 at 12:58 am
If the “no-sayers” won.. and the Council increased the budget it is likely they would all be voted out of office in November. It’s an election year remember?
If you want to restore the 1.8 million then you’d better be l0bbying your pals in the State Capitol to get us $1.8 million in ECS money and tell them to stop handing us unfunded mandates and get busy reforming binding arbitration laws…. or perhaps lobby your union pals who are refusing to help this town, to open up their contract and be a bit more reasonable in their demands. ($3.00 copays .. honestly…)
June 4, 2007 at 12:59 am
I meant $1.8 million more in ECS money over what we are estimating.
June 4, 2007 at 1:14 am
Lsd, I mean lxd
While your lobbying for more taxes could you ask Lucy in the Sky if you can look through her Kaleidoscope eyes? cause the rocking horse people in town eating marshmellow pies just can’t afford any more tangerines taxes or marmalade lies.
June 4, 2007 at 1:16 am
“Tangerine Taxes”
June 4, 2007 at 1:42 am
I am the Voter
I tax he and you tax me and we tax she and we are all together.
See how they spend like pigs in a pen see how they spend.
Expert texpert choking taxes dont’ you think the Council laughs at you?
See how they smile like pigs in a sty, see how they snied.
Sitting on a corn flake, waiting for our taxes to come.
Elementry school board singing Union Jackal tunes.
I am the taxman (ooh), they are the taxed men(ooh), I am the Voter!
Mister city plicmen switching party’s pretty little democrats in a row
Gray matter custard dripping from an ECS fund.
Corporation tee shirt Stupid Arbitration fans.
I am the taxman (ooh),they are the taxed men (ooh), I am the Voter!
June 4, 2007 at 2:17 am
we have 300k worth of school supt. why do we need two of them get rid of sklarz, ( dr. diversity).
tired of that left wing wacko stuffing his garbage down the throats of our kids.
June 4, 2007 at 2:19 am
revolt register your car in another state.slifka and his lefty limo liberal pals are addicted to our money
June 4, 2007 at 2:21 am
get rid of that overpaid moron police chief. that should save some money. replace him with a monkey
June 4, 2007 at 2:23 am
i,m sick of hearing about charter oak and smith
are we that guilt ridden. close the damm schools
June 4, 2007 at 7:32 am
Encore
Lsd, I mean lxd
While your lobbying for more taxes could you ask Lucy in the Sky if you can look through her Kaleidoscope eyes? cause the rocking horse people in town eating marshmellow pies just can’t afford any more tangerines taxes or marmalade lies.
I am the Voter
I tax he and you tax me and we tax she and we are all together.
See how they spend like pigs in a pen see how they spend.
Expert texpert choking taxes dont’ you think the Council laughs at you?
See how they smile like pigs in a sty, see how they snied.
Sitting on a corn flake, waiting for our taxes to come.
Elementry school board singing Union Jackal tunes.
I am the taxman (ooh), they are the taxed men(ooh), I am the Voter!
Mister city plicmen switching party’s pretty little democrats in a row
Gray matter custard dripping from an ECS fund.
Corporation tee shirt Stupid Arbitration fans.
I am the taxman (ooh),they are the taxed men (ooh), I am the Voter!
June 4, 2007 at 9:11 am
Joe, You are a whack job. But you are funny.
June 4, 2007 at 9:58 am
Grazia Tante Signorina Lori, tu sei a belle raggaze con e molte bene nuome.
Ciao!